Speculation abounded about the disc in the Beatles community until Ringo himself announced he wasn't on the disc.
Here are stories we published about the situation. The disc itself is a good one, even if Ringo isn't on it. We've also added a video with the full disc at the bottom.
Rory Storm live gig with Ringo Starr unearthed, but will it be released?
A CD planned for release in England Sept. 17 is a newly discovered tape of Ringo Starr performing with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes. The CD, called “Live at the Jive Hive” on Rock Star Records, features the band perform in March, 1960. The cover photo shows Ringo Starr playing guitar and not on drums.
The track list features covers of Elvis Presley, Little Richard, the Everly Brothers, Eddie Cochran, Little Richard, Carl Perkins and Johnny Otis. Three of the tracks are home recordings.
The disc was listed on Amazon.co.uk as late as Friday, but is no longer there. We did find it listed online at Proper Music. http://www.propermusic.com/product-details/Rory-Storm-and-The-Hurricanes-Live-At-The-Jive-Hive-143145
According to notes by author and BBC Merseyside radio host Spencer Leigh, the gig was professionally recorded. He says it's the first time a full set from a Merseyside group recorded before 1963 has been released.
Here's the full track list and some press release notes:
1.
Introduction
2.
“Brand New Cadillac”
3.
“(You're So Square) Baby I Don't Care”
4.
“Make Me Know You're Mine”
5.
“Bye Bye Love”
6.
“Jet Black”
7.
“Down The Line”
8.
“C'mon Everybody”
9.
“Don't Bug Me Baby”
10.
“Rip It Up”
11.
“Somethin' Else”
12.
“Train To Nowhere”
13.
“Since You Broke My Heart”
14.
“Honey Don't”
15.
“All American Boy”
16.
“Willie & The Hand Jive”
17.
Closing Announcement
18.
“Milk Cow Blues” (home recording)
19.
“What 'd I Say” (home recording)
20.
“Cathy's Clown” (home recording)
21.
“Now Is The Hour” (home recording)
A
live set by Rory Storm & The Hurricanes professionally recorded
at the Jive Hive Liverpool, 5th March 1960. Ringo Starr was his
drummer back then.
"Although
the history of Merseybeat & the growth of the Beatles have been
examined in forensic detail there are still discoveries to be made &
sometimes something special comes along that is both unexpected and
exciting. How come over 50 years on we now have a full set from Rory
Storm & The Hurricanes in 1960? They are on great form and whats
more the set has been professionally recorded".
"As
someone who has followed every niche of Merseybeat I have never come
across anything like this & I am delighted to be telling you
about it. Although up to 125 Liverpool beat groups were performing at
any one time over the city and it's suburbs precious few live
recordings were made & this is the first time that a full set
from a Merseyside group recorded before 1963 has been released.
The
fact that this dates from the early times, March 1960 (that is before
anyone had gone to Hamburg) makes it even more thrilling. At that
time there were only 30 rock & roll groups operationally on
Merseyside. This is also likely to be the only recordings we have of
Rory Storm with his then drummer Ringo Starr" - Spencer Leigh
(BBC Radio Merseyside)
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Published Aug. 18, 2012
Beatles author to premiere tracks from live Ringo-Rory Storm disc on BBC today
The story about the exciting live Rory Storm CD that we wrote about yesterday immediately got a little complicated when the Amazon.co.uk listing for it disappeared Friday. As of this writing, it still hasn't returned.
But famed Beatles author Spencer Leigh (“The Beatles in Hamburg” says he'll be playing a couple of tracks from it on his BBC RadioMerseyside show tonight.
“I'm planning to play a couple of tracks on my BBC Radio Merseyside show tonight and so you could hear them on 'Listen Again' if you wish.”
In reference to Amazon pulling the listing, he said, “As far as I know there are no hold-ups” to releasing the disc. It's still listed on Proper Music.
“It's a live concert professionally recorded in March 1960, so (it's) quite a find,” he says. “The band is ragged but they sound really exciting.”
The album will be released on Rockstar Records. Leigh says it's being launched at the Beatles Convention on Aug. 26 in Liverpool.
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Published Aug. 21, 2012
Tracks from new Rory Storm-Ringo Starr CD show raw, gritty sound
Beatles author and expert Spencer Leigh (“The Beatles In Hamburg”) played three tracks from the forthcoming Rory Storm and the Hurricanes “Live at the Jive Hive” recorded in March, 1960, on his weekly “On the Beat” show on Sunday.
The songs Leigh played were “All-American Boy,” “Brand New Cadillac” and an instrumental, “Train To Nowhere.” The tracks show the band were not unlike the Beatles during their Hamburg period – raw, gritty and hard rockin'.
One of Leigh's guests was Dave Jamison, who was a roadie for the band on the night the CD was recorded, talked about the gig and the band.
“I was there that night. I took them along in Joe Flannery's van,” he said. “We knew it was getting recorded, but we don't know who it was by.”
Leigh noted that Storm had a stutter off-stage but not when he sang.
“It was the stutter that first brought me into contact with Rory,” Jamison said. “It was 1957 behind the (soccer) goal at Anfield Road. And he stood next to us. There was about five of us. It's the first time I could go in the ground because I was 16 in two days. And this guy was next to us about 6 feet tall. If he was 6 feet, he was 6 feet 1 with fairish hair. He didn't speak, he didn't say a word.”
But when the match and goals were scored, he made an offer to Storm. “So I said to him, 'I'll shout goal for you.' And that was the start of a long-lasting friendship.”
They met again at a record shop a few weeks later. “And we just carried on. And that's how I got to know him.”
Jamison said as a member of the Hurricanes, Ringo Starr initially stayed in the background.
“The whole band was like any other band. There was conflict in the band between personalities and everything. There was always Ty (lead guitarist Charles 'Ty' O'Brien) and Lou (bass guitarist Lou Walters), and there was always Johnny (rhythm guitarist Johnny 'Guitar' Byrne) and Rory. And Ringo was in the background. And that's how I came to make friends with him. But Ringo didn't do much of the arguing. He'd say, 'Yeah, OK. It's not very often he argued with them.”
But Ringo's personality took shape when Storm featured him during the show.
“Then Rory and Johnny gave him 'Starr Time.' To be honest, Johnny and Rory brought the personality out of Ringo because Ringo was very very quiet.”
Ringo's drumming can be heard on the disc. Asked if Starr sings on the disc, Leigh says, “Not a solo certainly, and I didn't recognize his voice.”
After being taken off Amazon.co.uk last week, the CD is now listed there again and available for pre-order.
Leigh says, “It is extraordinary to have this around when there are really only five other tracks by Rory Storm, so now we know what he was like and clearly he was much more together than the Beatles were before they went to Hamburg.”
You can hear the full two-hour show at this link. The Rory Storm tracks are in the second half. Besides Jamison, who's on the full show, another of the in-studio guests is Sam Hardie of Kingsize Taylor and the Dominoes.
Iris Caldwell, sister of Rory Storm, will be a guest on Leigh's On the Beat show on Aug. 27. Leigh said she'll also appear at the Beatles convention in Liverpool the day before during International Beatles Week to kick off the release of the CD.
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Published Sept. 11, 2012
Breaking: Ringo Starr says it's not him on Rory Storm Jive Hive recordings
Since news of the Rory Storm and the Hurricanes CD recorded at the Jive Hive in 1960, a lingering question has been whether Ringo is actually on the CD. Even though his picture is on the front cover and some information said it was, it wasn't completely clear from the recordings whether it was him.
Now we have the answer. In comments from Ringo Starr the Beatles Examiner received through his publicist, the former Beatle says he's not on it because he was with the Beatles at the time.
"It's not me, that was done after I'd left to join the Beatles. I don't know who the drummer was but I hope that Rory fans enjoy it anyway."
But Ringo did mention a few songs he did record with Storm that he would love to hear again.
“The only two tracks I was on were recorded while we were in Germany in 1960, when we made a two track acetate, and for those of you in the digi world that is a-ce-tate, of “Mailman Bring Me No More Blues,” a Buddy Holly song sang by Lou Walters and “Fever”, and I’d love to hear those tracks ‘cause I don’t have a copy.”
The statement was signed “Peace & Love, Ringo.”
The CD will be released in England Sept. 17 and Sept. 25 in the U.S. Called “Live at the Jive Hive” on Rockstar Records, it features the band performing live in March, 1960. The cover photo shows Ringo Starr playing guitar and not on drums.
Ringo has also said that a version of the “West Side Story” song “America” that collectors had thought had Ringo didn't include him either.
“That seems to be it, then really,” BBC Merseyside Radio host Spencer Leigh, who played some of the tracks on his show, told us after hearing Ringo's comments. “It's going to become a very controversial issue anyway.” He said, though, it's great to have a full set by a Liverpool band from that time.
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Published Sept. 5, 2012
At the recent 2012 Beatleweek in Liverpool, Iris Caldwell admitted that there were "some doubts" about whether Ringo was who was on drums. What is known, is that he suffered from flu a day before the recording was made and not played with the group that night. She was interviewed by Mark Lewisohn and when he was interviewed about an hour later, he said that it wasn't Starr, definitely not for the reasons set out above about his illness and the obvious fact that also does not sound at all like him, supporting the story above. Ringo always has been known as a large clock, while the drummer here in the CD (identified as Don in the magazine Hurricane Johnny Guitar) disperses.
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